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  • Does anyone else who teaches a lot struggle from keeping their own vocal range in top shape? (Singing Teachers)

    Posted by Lydia Hedjazi on October 7, 2016 at 3:25 pm

    Hi guys!!! Just a quick question. Does anyone else who teaches a lot struggle from keeping their own vocal range in top shape. Mine seems to be getting so tired and my high notes are slowly disappearing when trying to teach, not only is this embarrassing as some students can sing higher then me now but also worrying!!! Any help or advice will be great??? 😊🎤

    Lydia Hedjazi replied 6 years, 11 months ago 6 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Eliza Fyfe

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    Literally the exact same problem as you, word for word!

    I find getting vocal training myself is always useful. Getting another professionals perspective!

  • Lydia Hedjazi

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    The only thing is I think majority of vocal tutors where I live are not the best!!! I’m petrified that I am doing damage and could end up with nodules on the vocal chords!!! Xx

  • Matt Pocock

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 3:28 pm

    Hey Lydia – sounds like something that you definitely want to get checked out. A couple of questions:

    Does it feel heavy and effortful when you sing (normally) on higher ranges?

    When you say ‘high notes’, do you mean the high notes of chest voice or the area when it flips over?

    Do you find making vocal fry(/creak) difficult?

  • Lydia Hedjazi

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 3:28 pm

    No usually I can slide to any voice chest/mixed/head with ease. I still can but the sound isn’t as strong and towards the high end of my range has suddenly disappeared! So yeah the part where it flips over! My throat seems to be getting really dry too all of a sudden!!! It’s not good!!!

    By getting it checked out what do you recommend? Ear throat nose doc?

  • Matt Pocock

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 3:28 pm

    How about the last question of mine? That’ll tell us a lot.

  • Matt Pocock

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 3:33 pm

    Ok – that sounds like quite a lot of vocal loading: usually the part above the flip is the first to feel the strain. I’d recommend seeing a singing teacher if you can to straighten out any areas of technique. It’s always great to have a second pair of eyes on you.

  • Guest Teacher

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 3:33 pm

    I don’t necessarily loose range, but the busier I’ve got the more I notice tiredness in my voice. So I’ve tried to switch up my teaching style so that I say and sing less and let the pupil do more (basically just filtering by asking myself “do I NEED to say this comment/do this demonstration?”). Also I’m often guilty of not warming up before starting teaching, which I need to work on.

    Also I’d suggest don’t feel embarrassed when pupils can sing higher than you, even if you’re a super amazing soprano. You’re not there to sing better than the pupil, you’re there to get the most out of that pupil. Especially as a male teacher with mostly female students, I’ve had to learn to demonstrate things where I feel comfortable, share the principle and then let the student find it in their range. Hope that helps.

  • Beckie Tunnicliffe

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 3:33 pm

    I always use the excuse “everyone’s voice is different, so that is why I can’t sing as low/high as you”😉

  • Lydia Hedjazi

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    Yeah it does! Thank you very much!! I need voice rest! Teaching over 50 hours a week, privately from home and running a performing arts school!! so I think I’m just worn out!

  • Guest Teacher

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    WOW! I limit myself to 25 hours teaching time a week (granted I’m also rehearsing shows and doing other things) and if I do more than 5 hours in a day I start feeling that tiredness creeping in so I’m not surprised you’re feeling it!

  • Lydia Hedjazi

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 3:39 pm

    I know, it’s hectic!!! Lol I teach around 35 vocal teaching then the rest other things…. I need a LONG NAP LOL

  • Eliza Fyfe

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 3:39 pm

    Oh my god 50 hours.. that’s what’s doing it!! I only do 19 hours of teaching!

  • Lydia Hedjazi

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 3:39 pm

    I maybe need to get an apprentice, lol has anyone thought about doing that them selfs? It’s hard I think in our field!

  • Lydia Hedjazi

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    Matt Pocock yes!!! Just attempted it now haha! Croaky as anything!! What does this mean ha?