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  • Eliza Fyfe

    Member
    November 21, 2024 at 6:44 pm

    Things keep hitting you, Matt, are you okay?

    Good stuff Matt, as always! Thought you would be the one to master this. So could you explain the vocal fry sound as I only understand it to be a low croak? So this student can make the note due to changing his lips and tongue? Sorry if I have misunderstood!

  • Matt Pocock

    Member
    November 21, 2024 at 6:44 pm

    I definitely need to diversify my portfolio of ‘I understood something’ idioms.

    The vocal fry sound is made by the vocal folds, but they can change it by adjusting the shape of their mouth. So it’s basically a way of showing the student that the filter matters too in the tuning of the note. Does that make sense, or am I talking gibberish?

    Here’s a little recording:

    http://mattpocock.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/ZOOM0075.mp3

  • Eliza Fyfe

    Member
    November 21, 2024 at 6:45 pm

    Ah yes I get it! And your clip really helps. So a deep sounding “ahhh” with dropped jaw versus a more open (what I call dentist chair) “aaaah” sound where is appears to sound higher/brighter?

  • Kat Hunter

    Member
    November 21, 2024 at 6:45 pm

    @Matt: I like the idea, but I suppose my one concern is that students might become over-reliant on using larynx height and articulator tension to get high sounds, which might then cause problems down the track as they get more advanced. Have you ever seen this to be the case?

  • Guest Teacher

    Member
    November 21, 2024 at 6:45 pm

    I’ve been trying to figure this one out for ages. I have a student at the moment who struggles with Pitch and I’ve been doing a little experiment with him.

    I got him to download a Chromatic tuner, the one we have been using is DaTuner Lite which is free on Google Play. I asked him to sing any note and then try and make that note a C. Once he found C I made him hold it and then find D, E, F, G until he was able to sing the simple scale.

    He said the fact that he could actually see what his voice was doing made it so much easier for him as he is a visual person. Even though he isn’t completely there yet, we are already starting to see improvements!

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