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  • Eliza Fyfe

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    November 21, 2024 at 6:35 pm

    Yes – I agree with everything you said and do this myself. It’s very difficult, and the truth is, both student and teacher have to work on this for months, sometimes years (if practice doesn’t happen daily!) with both parties remaining as patient as possible. I have also switched out-of-tune singers to piano so that they can connect to some basic interval theory and also it provides a visual guide for the movement of their voice. I hope that helps!

  • Kat Hunter

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    November 21, 2024 at 6:35 pm

    Indeed! Progress can be so slow. Switching to piano is a great idea. I often get students to try to visualise intervals, but piano would make that so much easier.

  • Eliza Fyfe

    Member
    November 21, 2024 at 6:36 pm

    You know this very thing helped me only today. That along with more gentle warm ups, working on a more gentle crossover from chest to head voice. She is too loud and almost stops hearing the track or something. She really tuned in more when she was quieter, and as a result was more in tune! And with a bit of piano notes played in her headphones (she was recording today) and repeating back while looking at the notes – she nailed it!

  • Kat Hunter

    Member
    November 21, 2024 at 6:36 pm

    Awesome! Sometimes it’s about getting the student into that headspace where they’re not trying to muscle through everything and instead just listen and allow the tuning to happen. Yes!

  • Matt Pocock

    Member
    November 21, 2024 at 6:36 pm

    Oh man, I had such a huge breakthrough with this a few months ago. It went like this:

    For so long, I thought that tuning was a mental process. If the student understood the concept that one note was higher than another, or that they were going flat or sharp, they would automatically know how to improve. It seemed like some students just didn’t know the differences between sharp and flat or high and low. So if I just told them again and again, they’d eventually understand.

    Needless to say, this approach got me nowhere except that theme park called Frustration Land – of which I became a season ticket holder.

    But finally it hit me. Students learn how to sing from how they speak. And non-singers tend to speak in quite a narrow register.

    They don’t know how it feels to sing higher or lower. They only know the feeling of their own speaking register. But what is involved in the feeling of a high note? Obviously, the vocal folds vibrate faster, but there was surely a lot more than that:

    I started breaking it down. First of all, the larynx needs to rise a little. The pharynx gains a little bit of helpful tension. Everything narrows a bit more. The tongue rises. The lips, if you’d like, can get more widened. The placement of the note (whatever that means) feels a little higher – more towards the forehead than the throat.

    And then finally, WHAM. It hit me.

    To teach a student tuning, you can’t just explain it in concepts. You had to acquaint them with the physical symptoms of high and low notes. And the physical symptoms the student feels are all about the filter – the mouth, the larynx height, the tongue, the lips, pharyngeal tension, and the ‘placement’.

    So I call this ‘filter tuning’.

    Let’s take an example. A male student is trying to tune to a middle C. This can be a fairly high note for some students just starting out. They keep undershooting it by some distance.

    What you should notice is that the mouth is almost completely disengaged. There’s no sense of them raising the larynx/tongue/lips or anything. The mouth is just where it is when they speak.

    So what they need to do, in this new terminology, is ‘tune the filter up‘.

    The way I do this is simple:

    1. Make a vocal fry sound.

    2. Now make the lowest vocal fry sound you can.

    3. Now make the highest vocal fry sound you can, without actually making a note.

    You’ll notice that on step two, the filter tunes downwards, dropping the larynx, lowering the tongue and jaw.

    On step three, the filter tunes upwards, lifting the larynx, heightening the tongue, widening the lips.

    But here’s the kicker – this is all being changed by the filter. Nothing about the actual vocal folds is changing here – the sound difference is all in the way the mouth and vocal tract are changing shape.

    (If the student struggles with vocal fry, this can also be done on breath. You’re then listening for the ‘dark quality’ or ‘light quality’ of the breath)

    So returning to that student. Ask him to tune his filter up using vocal fry, and then to sing the note. If he still undershoots, tune it up a little more. You’ll be amazed at the difference.

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